What lies beneath Panarea Island? Could it be a pyramid?

enthusiast said:

I'm afraid we can't find any written sources for that period. For the simple reason that back in mythical times, this group of islands was uninhabited. Before Liparus and his minions fled/arrived there. For anyone interested, here's what Diodorus of Siculus wrote about it.
The region itself is quite dangerous in terms of volcanic activity.

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Quote: «Strongyle, nu Strombolo, is omtrend tien mijlen in den omtrek, en de grond niet min vruchtbaer, dan die van Lipari, maer het geheele land wordt dikwijls verwoest door de vlammen, welke een berg in het eiland uitbraekt.»

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Looks like the translation is:
Quote: "Strongyle, now Strombolo, is about ten miles in circumference, and the soil is not less fertile than that of Lipari, but the whole land is often devastated by the flames which a mountain breaks out in the island."

Thanks for looking. I’m still on the hunt for clues!

Those cut stone walls underwater have to be a housing for something. Or maybe an entrance to the pyramid?
Google offered this tidbit:

Panarea has been created followed by Dattilo, with its pyramid form, Bottaro, Panarelli, Formiche, Lisca Bianca, Lisca Nera, and Basiluzzo, with its shape of a cupola, where there are the remains of a Roman villa with traces of a mosaic floor and coloured plaster.

Which, I guess, is how it got to be a UNESCO site.

Definitely found something there @Recognition.

@Whitewave damn incredible find!! Just to remind everyone what a cupola looks like, it’s this:


Incredible find!

Went here Source and found out the islands name in modern Italian which is "Isola Panarea"

Then went unto duckduckgo images using Isola Panarea as the search term.
Which led to this site Source which is in Italian. Has some cracking drawings from the 1880's

Which I put into google translate Source

Which led to this bloke Luigi Salvatore of Austria
And here is the Italian wiki about him which google translated into Englsih Source

Another duckduckgo search led me to this site also in Italian that google translated Source

According the text on that page there are 13 woodcuts of Panarera dated 1895. Might be worth tracking them down.

jd755 said:

Has some cracking drawings from the 1880's

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From this book in German, to be precise.

Thanks for the link to the book.

jd755 said:

Which led to this site Source which is in Italian. Has some cracking drawings from the 1880's

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To be precise.

From the above link. That's one interesting image.

KorbenDallas said:

From the above link. That's one interesting image.

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Those type of spheres are also near the base of the Bosnian pyramid


To me these look like huge bricks that have been through some major cataclysm, as well.

KorbenDallas said:

From what I understand, we need to look for a better description of this Euonymous Island, for it sounds like Panarea could be one of its remains.

• 1798 source

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Related to the island’s original name Euonymous, or spindle tree.
The name “spindle tree” reminds me of this Sumerian piece:

KorbenDallas said:

That's one interesting image.

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Recognition said:

Those type of spheres are also near the base of the Bosnian pyramid

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Yeah, you know, I'm interested in that, too. Here's the quote on page 16 - «Kleine, abgerundete Steinblöcke umgeben die Felder, auf welchen zahlreiche Rosmarin-Gebüsche wachsen. <...> Dieser Ort heisst Malu Passu. Abermals an Felsblöcken vorüber, zwischen denen Oelbäume emporgewachsen sind, gelangt man zu dem Petra luonga genannten Orte, lässt den zur Muntagna führenden Pfad zur Linken und biegt rechts zwischen malerischen, röthlichen Felsblöcken ein, unter denen einige Häuschen und Oelbäume stehen. Ein trockenes, von lose aufeinander gelagerten Steinen umgebenes Bachbett überschreitend, gelangt man auf die Anhöhe der Kirche.»

("Small, rounded stone blocks surround the fields, on which numerous rosemary bushes grow. <...> This place is called Malu Passu. Passing again boulders with olive trees growing between them, you reach the place called Petra Luonga, leaving the path leading to the Muntagna on your left and turning right between picturesque reddish boulders, among which there are some small houses and olive trees. Crossing a dry stream bed surrounded by loosely stacked stones, you reach the hill of the church.")


Damn it, is there anyone here who reads German?! I'm sick of torturing DeepL.

enthusiast said:

Yeah, you know, I'm interested in that, too. Here's the quote on page 16 - «Kleine, abgerundete Steinblöcke umgeben die Felder, auf welchen zahlreiche Rosmarin-Gebüsche wachsen. <...> Dieser Ort heisst Malu Passu. Abermals an Felsblöcken vorüber, zwischen denen Oelbäume emporgewachsen sind, gelangt man zu dem Petra luonga genannten Orte, lässt den zur Muntagna führenden Pfad zur Linken und biegt rechts zwischen malerischen, röthlichen Felsblöcken ein, unter denen einige Häuschen und Oelbäume stehen. Ein trockenes, von lose aufeinander gelagerten Steinen umgebenes Bachbett überschreitend, gelangt man auf die Anhöhe der Kirche.»

("Small, rounded stone blocks surround the fields, on which numerous rosemary bushes grow. <...> This place is called Malu Passu. Passing again boulders with olive trees growing between them, you reach the place called Petra Luonga, leaving the path leading to the Muntagna on your left and turning right between picturesque reddish boulders, among which there are some small houses and olive trees. Crossing a dry stream bed surrounded by loosely stacked stones, you reach the hill of the church.")

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Damn it, is there anyone here who reads German?! I'm sick of torturing DeepL.

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Haha how are these small stones? These peeps writing about things! Thank heavens for paintings that tell the real story

@enthusiast thanks for your translation!

enthusiast said:

Small, rounded stone blocks surround the fields, on which numerous rosemary bushes grow

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This is referring to the dry stone walls that are used to define a field over here as well. They are indeed constructed from small stones rocks and are put together in a very skilful way that few master. Dry stone walls they are called here as they are devoid of any form of cement. Smaller stones are used to lock in and level the larger heavier stones. The limit to the size they use is how much wight the man lifting can carry. Stone beyond the carrying of one man are rarely used but where a gate stoop or sheep gate is going in they use bigger stones to form posts and lintels. Of course the largest stones are just into the ground to provide a solid foundation.

Here's a photo of one such wall in Yorkshire.


The wall in the drawing is a dry stone wall. As the author is accurate about his description of the wall then it is fair to say is it not that he is likely to be accurate in the rest of his writing?
Hopefully Cemen will see this thread on one of his too rare visits here and provide is with a verbatim translation.

I have to say I am intrigued by the round mark/hole/opening in the dome shaped object just behind the drystone wall. It could point to a use for the object.

Recognition said:

Haha how are these small stones?

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With this excerpt I wanted to show that there appear to be rounded stones of different sizes. Turning directly to you, I cited the second excerpt from the text, about the reddish boulders, recalling the first color photo from your post above. I still do not understand whether the stone is mentioned on page 15. The book itself resembles a tourist's guidebook, "go that way, turn left, look right".
KorbenDallas is right to call attention to this stone. Excuse me, do you also have a huge boulder and a pillar in front of your house? Maybe there used to be another building there?

jd755 said:

This is referring to the dry stone walls that are used to define a field over here as well.

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I agree.

enthusiast said:

With this excerpt I wanted to show that there appear to be rounded stones of different sizes. Turning directly to you, I cited the second excerpt from the text, about the reddish boulders, recalling the first color photo from your post above. I still do not understand whether the stone is mentioned on page 15. The book itself resembles a tourist's guidebook, "go that way, turn left, look right".
KorbenDallas is right to call attention to this stone. Excuse me, do you also have a huge boulder and a pillar in front of your house? Maybe there used to be another building there?

I agree.

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Ah yes the spheres are kind of redddish, i see now! Ok good point jd and @enthusiast

enthusiast said:

Passing again boulders with olive trees growing between them, you reach the place called Petra Luonga, leaving the path leading to the Muntagna on your left and turning right between picturesque reddish boulders, among which there are some small houses and olive trees

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"Boulders with olive trees growing between them"
"turning right between picturesque reddish boulders among which there are some small houses and olive trees"

This suggests there were two types of rock at least in terms of colour in the area the chap was walking through.The dome shaped thing and column shaped thing behind the wall could I suggest be things used in the extraction and preservation of olive oil. I don't know much about old techniques in use in 1895 but given the double mention of olive trees in that passage it would be a fair bet that the olives were pressed nearby.

The other two things that occur to me is the dome shaped thing could be a bread oven or it could be some sort of sky observatory or sundial affair. The latter is a stretch for sure but its just the angle of that circular 'hole' thing in relation to the dome that suggests some kind of sky observatory.
The oven seems much more likely as given the islands location and the fact olive trees abound winter cold is not an issue so it would make sense to bake and indeed cook outside.

When you mention it reads like a guide I get a picture of an aristocrat doing the 'grand tour' and indeed producing a guide book for other aristocrats to use should they decide they want to perambulate these islands on their own grand tour.

KorbenDallas said:

@Recognition shared his findings with me, and I think we could do some related research. I am not sure how credible Google underwater imaging is, at the same time right angles in nature are very rare.

• In this case we are talking about a possible 10 miles by 10 miles underwater structure.
• The structure appears to resemble some of the pyramids we would commonly see on the other side of the Atlantic ocean.

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Panarea Island​

Panarea is the smallest of the seven inhabited Aeolian Islands, a volcanic island chain in north of Sicily, southern Italy. There are currently about 280 residents living on the island year-round.

• The island is an inactive volcano with a total surface area of only 3.4 km2 (1.3 sq mi). ​
• The highest point on the island, Punta del Corvo, is 421 m (1,381 ft) above sea level. ​
• There are thermal springs near the village of Punta di Peppe e Maria.​

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In antiquity, the island was named "Euonymos"; the nearby islet of Basiluzzo, administered from Panarea, was named "Hycesia". There is archaeological evidence on the island dating back to Mycenaean inhabitants (~ 1200 BCE); later the island was settled by Romans. There were people still living on the island until pirates and other Mediterranean raiders made life unbearable after the fall of the Western Roman Empire.

• Etymology of Euonymos: from Ancient Greek εὐώνυμος (euṓnumos, “lucky”), from εὖ (eû, “good”) + ὄνομα (ónoma, “name”)

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KD: Well, I don't know whether what we have was indeed a pyramid, but it could be a structure of sorts. Let's see what we can find out.

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I do enjoy looking at images like grid systems and possible pyramids. You brought up a good point. I have to ask how credible are any of the images from google? For example, has anyone actually walked the grid line systems that seem to blanket the North American Continent?